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and there is room to say that it belongs entirely to one of them, and there is also room to say that it belongs entirely to the other one, and nevertheless Sumakhos says that since it is property of uncertain ownership they divide it without taking an oath, then here, where the litigants have no financial association with the item, as there is room to say that it belongs to both of them, all the more so is it not clear that they should divide it without taking an oath? The Gemara answers: You may even say that the mishna is in accordance with the opinion of Sumakhos: This oath is instituted by rabbinic law in accordance with the statement of Rabbi Yoḥanan. As Rabbi Yoḥanan says: This oath, administered in the case of two people holding a garment, is an ordinance instituted by the Sages so that everyone will not go and seize the garment of another and say: It is mine. § The Gemara suggests: Let us say that the mishna is not in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yosei. As, if you say that the ruling is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yosei, doesn’t he say that a case cannot be decided in a manner in which there is no deterrent for one taking a false claim to court (37a)? He says this with regard to a case where two people deposited money with the same person. One deposited one hundred dinars and one deposited two hundred, and the bailee forgot which of them deposited the larger sum. Subsequently, each claimed ownership of the larger sum and was prepared to take an oath to that effect. The Rabbis say that each should receive the smaller sum and the remainder should be held until Elijah the prophet prophetically resolves the uncertainty. Rabbi Yosei says: If so, what did the swindler lose? Rather, the entire deposit will be placed in a safe place until Elijah comes. The Gemara counters: Rather, what is suggested? Is it suggested that the mishna is in accordance with the opinion of the Rabbis, who disagree with Rabbi Yosei? Since the Rabbis say there: The remainder is placed in a safe place until Elijah comes, this case of the mishna concerning the garment is also comparable to the remainder in the case of the deposit, as it is uncertain to whom the entire garment belongs. It should therefore be placed in a safe place until the matter is resolved. The Gemara answers: What is this comparison? Granted, if you say that the mishna is in accordance with the opinion of the Rabbis there, in the case of the depositors, where these one hundred dinars certainly belong to only one of them and the Rabbis say that it is placed in a safe place until Elijah comes, here, in the case of this mishna, where there is room to say that it belongs to both of them, the Rabbis say that they divide it with the proviso that they take an oath. But if you say that the mishna is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yosei, there is a difficulty. Now consider, if there, in a case where it is certain that there are one hundred dinars that belong to one of the litigants and there are one hundred dinars that belong to the other one, nevertheless, Rabbi Yosei says that the entire sum is placed in a safe place until Elijah comes, here, where there is room to say that it all belongs to only one of them, all the more so is it not clear that it should be placed in a safe place until Elijah comes, as one of the claims may be entirely fraudulent? The Gemara rejects this suggestion: You may even say that the mishna is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yosei: There, in the case of the deposit, there is certainly a swindler between the two depositors. By contrast, here, in the case of the mishna, who is to say that there is a swindler? Say that both of them lifted the garment at the same time, and therefore there is no reason to penalize them by placing the garment in a safe place. Alternatively, there is room to distinguish between the cases: There, Rabbi Yosei penalizes the swindler by confiscating his deposit so that he will admit that he lied in order to receive his original deposit of one hundred dinars from the bailee. Here, in the case of the garment, what loss would a swindler incur that would prompt him to admit that he is lying? If the item is placed in a safe place, he loses nothing. The Gemara rejects this alternative explanation: This distinction works out well in the case of a found item where he did not pay anything for it. Consequently, he has no incentive to admit that he lied. But in a case of buying and selling, what is there to say? Both parties paid for the item and prefer to receive the item. Rather, the distinction is clearly as we explained initially. The difference between the cases is that in the mishna, there is no certainty that one of them is lying. The Gemara asks: Both according to the opinion of the Rabbis and according to the opinion of Rabbi Yosei, there, with regard to the case of a storekeeper relying on his ledger, it is unclear why the money is not held until the matter is clarified. This is referring to a case where an employer tells a storekeeper to give food to his laborer in lieu of his salary, and later the storekeeper claims that he gave it to him but the laborer claims that he did not receive it. Both parties therefore claim payment from the employer. As the mishna (Shevuot 45a) teaches that this one, the storekeeper, takes an oath that he gave the food to the laborer and receives payment from the employer, and that one, the laborer, takes an oath that he was not given the food and takes his salary from the employer. What is different in that case, that we do not say: Appropriate the money from the employer, and it is placed in a safe place until Elijah comes? Apparently, we should say this because there is certainly a swindler among the litigants, since it is impossible that both the storekeeper and the laborer are telling the truth. The Sages say in response: There, this is the reason that the money is not set aside: Because the storekeeper can say to the employer: I carried out your agency to give the food to the laborer, and I have dealings only with you. What business do I have with the hired laborer? Even if he takes an oath to me that he did not receive the food, he is not trustworthy to me by virtue of his oath. You are the one who trusted him, as you did not say to me: Give him the food in the presence of witnesses. Therefore, you are obligated to pay me. If you have a grievance, settle it with your employee. And the hired laborer can also say to the employer: I worked for you. What relationship do I have with the storekeeper? Even if he takes an oath to me that he gave me the change, he is not trustworthy to me by virtue of his oath. Therefore, both parties take an oath and take payment from the employer. § Rabbi Ḥiyya taught a baraita: If one says to another: I have one hundred dinars [maneh] in your possession that you borrowed from me and did not repay, and the other party says: Nothing of yours is in my possession, and the witnesses testify that he has fifty dinars that he owes the claimant, he gives him fifty dinars and takes an oath about the remainder, i.e., that he did not borrow the fifty remaining dinars from him. This ruling is derived via an a fortiori inference from the halakha that one who admits to part of a claim that is brought against him is obligated to take an oath that he owes no more than the amount that he admits to have borrowed. The inference is: As the admission of one’s own mouth should not carry greater weight than the testimony of witnesses. Since in this case witnesses testify that he owes an amount equal to part of the claim, he is all the more so obligated to take an oath with regard to the rest of the sum. The Gemara comments: And the tanna of the mishna also taught a similar halakha: In a case of two people who came to court holding a garment, where this one says: I found it, and the other one says: I found it, each litigant takes an oath and they divide the garment. And here, in the case of a found item, since each litigant is holding part of the garment, it is clear to us that what is in this one’s grasp is his, and what is in that one’s grasp is his. This is tantamount to witnesses testifying that part of the claim of each litigant is legitimate. And the mishna teaches that each of them takes an oath. The Gemara clarifies: For what reason is it necessary to have the a fortiori inference: As the admission of one’s own mouth should not carry greater weight than the testimony of witnesses? Isn’t the comparison to the case of an admission to part of a claim self-evident? The Gemara answers: It is necessary so that you will not say that it is only in a case of the admission of one’s own mouth that the Merciful One imposes an oath upon him, in accordance with the explanation of Rabba. As Rabba says: For what reason did the Torah say that one who admits to part of the claim must take an oath? It is because there is a presumption that a person does not exhibit insolence by lying in the presence of his creditor, who had done him a favor by lending money to him. And this person who denies part of the claim actually wants to deny all of the debt, so as to be exempt, and this fact that he does not deny all of it is because a person does not exhibit insolence.
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et il y a lieu de dire qu’il appartient entièrement à l’un d’eux, et il y a aussi lieu de dire qu’il appartient entièrement à l’autre un, et néanmoins Sumakhos dit que puisqu’il s’agit d’un bien dont la propriété est incertaine, ils le divisent sans prêter un serment, alors ici, où les plaideurs n’ont aucune association financière avec l’objet, comme il y a lieu de dire qu’il appartient à tous les deux, à plus forte raison n’est-il pas clair qu’ils doivent le diviser sans prêter un serment ? La Guemara répond : Tu peux même dire que la mishna est conforme à l’opinion de Sumakhos : Ce serment est institué par la loi rabbinique conformément à la déclaration de Rabbi Yoḥanan. Comme Rabbi Yoḥanan dit : Ce serment, administré dans le cas de deux personnes tenant un vêtement, est une ordonnance instituée par les Sages afin que chacun n’aille pas saisir le vêtement d’un autre et dire : Il est à moi. § La Guemara suggère : Disons que la mishna n’est pas conforme à l’opinion de Rabbi Yosei. Car, si tu dis que la décision est conforme à l’opinion de Rabbi Yosei, ne dit-il pas qu’un cas ne peut être tranché d’une manière où il n’y a aucun moyen de dissuader celui qui présente une fausse réclamation au tribunal (37a) ? Il dit cela à propos d’un cas où deux personnes ont déposé de l’argent chez la même personne. L’un a déposé cent deniers et l’autre deux cents, et le dépositaire a oublié lequel d’entre eux a déposé la somme la plus importante. Par la suite, chacun a revendiqué la propriété de la somme la plus importante et était prêt à prêter un serment à cet effet. Les Rabbins disent que chacun doit recevoir la somme la plus petite et le reste doit être conservé jusqu’à ce qu’Élie le prophète résolve prophétiquement l’incertitude. Rabbi Yosei dit : Si c’est le cas, qu’a perdu le fraudeur ? Plutôt, tout le dépôt sera placé dans un endroit sûr jusqu’à ce qu’Élie vienne. La Guemara objecte : Plutôt, qu’est-ce qui est suggéré ? Est-il suggéré que la mishna est conforme à l’opinion de les Rabbins, qui sont en désaccord avec Rabbi Yosei ? Puisque les Rabbins disent là : Le reste est placé dans un endroit sûr jusqu’à ce qu’Élie vienne, ce cas de la mishna concernant le vêtement est aussi comparable au reste dans le cas du dépôt, car il est incertain à qui appartient le vêtement entier. Il devrait donc être placé dans un endroit sûr jusqu’à ce que la question soit résolue. La Guemara répond : Qu’est-ce que cette comparaison ? Accordé, si tu dis que la mishna est conforme à l’opinion de les Rabbins là, dans le cas des déposants, où ces cent deniers appartiennent certainement à seulement un d’eux et les Rabbins disent que cela est placé dans un endroit sûr jusqu’à ce qu’Élie vienne, ici, dans le cas de cette mishna, où il y a lieu de dire qu’il appartient à tous les deux, les Rabbins disent que ils le divisent avec la condition qu’ils prêtent un serment. Mais si tu dis que la mishna est conforme à l’opinion de Rabbi Yosei, il y a une difficulté. Maintenant considère, si là, dans un cas où il est certain qu’il y a cent deniers qui appartiennent à un des plaideurs et qu’il y a cent deniers qui appartiennent à l’autre un, néanmoins, Rabbi Yosei dit que la somme entière est placée dans un endroit sûr jusqu’à ce qu’Élie vienne, ici, où il y a lieu de dire qu’il tout appartient à seulement un d’eux, à plus forte raison n’est-il pas clair qu’il devrait être placé dans un endroit sûr jusqu’à ce qu’Élie vienne, car l’une des réclamations peut être entièrement frauduleuse ? La Guemara rejette cette suggestion : Tu peux même dire que la mishna est conforme à l’opinion de Rabbi Yosei : Là, dans le cas du dépôt, il y a certainement un fraudeur parmi les deux déposants. En revanche, ici, dans le cas de la mishna, qui peut dire qu’il y a un fraudeur ? Dis que tous les deux ont soulevé le vêtement en même temps, et donc il n’y a aucune raison de les pénaliser en plaçant le vêtement dans un endroit sûr. Alternativement, il y a lieu de distinguer entre les cas : Là, Rabbi Yosei pénalise le fraudeur en confisquant son dépôt afin qu’il admette qu’il a menti pour recevoir son dépôt original de cent deniers du dépositaire. Ici, dans le cas du vêtement, quelle perte un fraudeur encourrait-il qui le pousserait à admettre qu’il ment ? Si l’objet est placé dans un endroit sûr, il ne perd rien. La Guemara rejette cette explication alternative : Cette distinction fonctionne bien dans le cas d’un objet trouvé où il n’a rien payé pour cela. Par conséquent, il n’a aucune incitation à admettre qu’il a menti. Mais dans un cas d’achat et de vente, qu’y a-t-il à dire ? Les deux parties ont payé pour l’objet et préfèrent recevoir l’objet. Plutôt, la distinction est clairement comme nous l’avons expliqué initialement. La différence entre les cas est que dans la mishna, il n’y a pas de certitude que l’un d’eux ment. La Guemara demande : Tant selon l’opinion de les Rabbins que selon l’opinion de Rabbi Yosei, là, en ce qui concerne le cas d’un boutiquier se fiant à son registre, il n’est pas clair pourquoi l’argent n’est pas conservé jusqu’à ce que la question soit clarifiée. Cela fait référence à un cas où un employeur dit à un boutiquier de donner de la nourriture à son ouvrier en lieu et place de son salaire, et plus tard le boutiquier prétend qu’il la lui a donnée mais l’ouvrier prétend qu’il ne l’a pas reçue. Les deux parties réclament donc le paiement à l’employeur. Comme la mishna (Shevuot 45a) enseigne [...]
Le cas des dépôts incertains renvoie à la loi de l'Exode sur le gardiennage du bien d'autrui, où le serment intervient pour trancher les litiges (Exode 22:6-8) ; la sagesse rabbinique cherche à éviter que le fraudeur ne profite, ce qui s'accorde avec l'appel biblique à ne pas opprimer ni tromper (Lévitique 19:13).

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